Author Topic: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.  (Read 5610 times)

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Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:47:01 PM »
Arguably one of the most over used and over hyped route in the Ozarks, I think its time to revamp it.

Here are my goals for the revamp;

Maintain similar number of crossings.
Maintain similar difficulty to original.
Remove front country feel for some parts.
Keep to heavier traveled routes to make sure the trail will be 100% open.
Provide a more detailed route explanation (not turn-by-turn but maybe some detail about the specific road you are turning on).

The revamp will be easy when traveled south-north and difficult when traveled north-south. It will stop at local waterfalls, historic sites and the best scenery. I want the length to be two full days, such that you can do it Friday afternoon - Sunday morning.

The current version, or whatever iteration is making the rounds, actually has two or three closed roads on it - two permanently, one seasonally. It also ventures through some areas that have been bulldozed and make into a freeway. Unfortunately I have seen trip reports of people who have used that route for a weekend and see horrible leave no trace and tread lightly infractions. Most notably people drinking and driving and then driving up random river banks. This isn't cool, no matter where your from... We should respect this land as it is public. Its for joe-bob down the road as much as it is for you or I.

With that rant over, I want to make this an ongoing process to outline the process I go through when scouting a trail.

Resources I use:
My primary resource for mapping is caltopo.com.
- You can find a variety of map overlays so I find it the quickest way to reference an area.
The USFS MVUM .pdf files.
- I'm not a massive fan of these, but these are roads the forest service deems to be worthy of ATVS. Its a good reference for knowing what to avoid if necessary - I don't like running into a million ATVs every day.
Personal notes from previous trips.
- The best way to figure something out is to do it yourself. Simple as that. (I wont be sharing these, btw! Trade secrets!)

Step 1:
Review the old track.
- Typical area for the trips of its generation. Simple, focuses on some of the most overused areas we have.
Solution... Reroute to include some of the newer finds we have.

Going to add new finds next time I have a few minutes... Stay tuned.

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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2015, 10:53:08 AM »
Jayston, thanks for all you do to keep our adventures in the ONF fresh, legal, fun and considerate of the national forest we all enjoy.
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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2015, 11:24:13 AM »
I have a track file passed on to me from a full time overland traveler by the name of Mark Doiron.  He traveled from South to North many years ago.  Maybe you've seen his overland trip videos. Anyway, if I passed you the. Gpx file of his route could you tell me if it's still valid?  I have not seen the other routes your speaking of.  Perhaps this is the same.  Idk. 
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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2015, 11:29:52 AM »
It's not the same. Mark Doiron is still on one of the early versions I've seen, haven't watched his videos since he blocked me from  commenting.

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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2015, 11:35:13 AM »
I see.  In your opinion should I still plan on using this route he gave me or is the one you're working on a more scenic/technical route? 
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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2015, 11:36:09 AM »
Mine will be more scenic and technical.

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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2015, 11:46:35 AM »
As a side note, he started out with a copy of the original high water mark trail we did years ago.

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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2015, 12:02:22 PM »
Ok.  Thanks.  We are debating between this trail and the Buckhorn area.  So, any advice from those in the know is greatly appreciated. I'll be looking forward to you revision.
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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2015, 12:03:59 PM »
This is 10x better than buckhorn.

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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2015, 08:52:15 PM »
Got on a roll and redid the route in one setting. So... will have to back track and go through the steps and screen shot them.

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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2015, 09:44:16 AM »
Got on a roll and redid the route in one setting. So... will have to back track and go through the steps and screen shot them.

Killer!  Can't wait to hit it, man!

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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2015, 01:44:39 PM »
What's the current status of this?

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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2015, 01:47:50 PM »
It's done, PM for the file.

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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2015, 09:37:09 PM »
Thanks for all you do Jayston.  My brother and I followed the old trail back in April and really enjoyed it.  Would really like to see your modifications.  Travel safe.

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Re: Redoing the "High Water Mark" Trail.
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2016, 06:54:18 AM »
Can someone PM me the updated trail route? Thanks, Wade

 

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