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Jayston

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When rubber meets the dirt.
« on: August 15, 2014, 11:01:04 PM »
I realized tonight that I may have a problem. I like tires.

Okay, I'm obsessed with them.

Here is a list of the tires I've had in the last 6 years.

31x10.5 BFG AT
Grip sucked, lasted forever.
31x10.5 Trxus MT
Great tire, if tires were square. Find some round ones and a good balance if grip wins over longevity.

235/85r16 maxxis bighorn
Cheap, durable, but lost this set to an arrowhead through a tread block. Freak accident.

37x12.5r16.5 Goodyear MT
Lol.

38x14.5r15 Toyo MT
Balanced with weights and threw in golf balls for good measure. Surprisingly smooth for airballons. Grip was so-so.

^ Blue Hilux

265/75r16 Firestone destination AT
20k and sold. Quiet, smooth, Meh offroad. They were good for this:

265/76r16 Firestone destination MT
25k and bald.
Loud, rough riding, grips great.

255/85r16 maxxis bighorn
40k, one flat. Lots of abuse.

285/75r16 Kenda Klever
initial test promising, no long term (yet)

285/75r16 treadwright guard dog
15k - 45-50% tread remaining
Grip like á porcupine in a styrofoam factory. Ride like I'm at a rodeo. Sound like tractor tires.

255/86r16 Km2
20k, no flats, 2/3rd wore down. Well rounded tire. Truly recommend.

^ Tacoma

245/65r16? St maxx (like 4 sets)
90% gravel road life. Rare flat, get loud as wear progresses.
Mileage counts vary by season.
235/70r17 Michelin AT
15k and belts were showing on rear duals.
JUNK.
235/70r17 Firestone destination AT
Various mileage.
like your driving on a slip,n'slide. prone to small leaks. Weak sidewalls.

235/85r16 Hankook Dynapro AT
Low miles so far.
great road manners and surprisingly decent offroad traction.
235/85r16 Couragia MT
12k to bald. Truck hauled alot.
Grip something, proceed to wear all life from tire in 1 mile. Repeat.
^Misc trucks

235/85r16 Kenda Klever MT
Low miles.
Cheap, well built. Great tire, shame it's China made.

^ budget runner

35x12.5r15 Goodyear MTR Kevlar
Low miles.
Amazing. Road manners phenomenal. Grip like you could never guess.

What about yours?
« Last Edit: August 16, 2014, 11:50:49 AM by Jayston »

Jayston

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 11:51:18 AM »
I seriously just spent an hour tracking down ancient photos for them to not show up.

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2014, 08:39:30 PM »
Haha where's the like button

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2014, 07:33:37 PM »
I've had the ATM's and they were a great road tire and did decent on rocks and lite mud

I've also had 33x10.5x15 KM2s on my last cherokee and they were absolutely amazing for the 20k miles I had them before I sold the truck

I now have 33x12.5x15 MTr's on my JKU and I wish I would have went back to the KM's and sacrificed the weight. No matter what I have done I can't stop them from cupping. They make noise but ride decent. They have never left me stuck in mud or going up a reasonable rock face.

I think my next set I will go back to 17in wheels and pick up a mildish MT such as a general.

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2014, 08:50:13 PM »
Search Toyo RT when you have a chance.

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2014, 08:20:03 PM »
Are you talking about the new ones?



They are definitely a pretty tire.

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2014, 08:26:57 PM »
Yep, looks like a competitor for st maxx

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 09:58:04 PM »
I'm a little disappointed in the MTR mud performance, but I didn't air down either. Otherwise, its pretty slick.

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2014, 05:28:02 PM »
I haven't had a problem out of mine but I try to stay out of mud if I can

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2014, 02:58:31 PM »
Only set of tires I've had so far are 33x10.50x15 BFG KM2s.  I've put over 6,000 miles on them so far and they still look brand new.  Awesome grip off road, NO road noise, and ride great on the highway...  Highly recommended tire!

« Last Edit: August 25, 2014, 03:01:25 PM by forunnin »

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2014, 09:15:47 PM »
I have 285 MTR Goodyears I love them wearing well after 20K no side wall cuts or chunking on the tread lugs however they are heavy.
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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2014, 07:00:20 PM »
I love KM2s


 I am now kicking myself because I did a lot of weight research before ordering and I guess I looked at 35in km2s weight rather than 33in. Turns out they are 2lbs lighter not 12lbs heavier than MTRs…..I'm really bummed now.

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2014, 12:46:15 PM »
On my fleet I have various tyres mounted on various vehicles, it just depends on their application and job of the vehicle. Tyre size vary but are generally within the 30" to 35" range, unless noted.

My recommendation list is as follows:

1. Goodyear Kevlar MT/Rs: Excellent all around tyre. Good road manners on highway; especially in rain, and great traction off-road. Excellent sidewall. Good wear on tread. Slightly noisy on tarmac when tread is less than half.

2. BFG KM2s: Again another excellent all around tyre with good performances like the Kevlar. The KM2s sidewall is not as armoured as the Goodyears however they are still substantial in protection. I had nearly 60,000 miles on my first set that shod my Tacoma and I replaced them with another set. Good trye. They do get alittle noisey as they loss tread however, but not noisey enough that you cannot hear your supercharger whine.

3. BFG All-Terrains: These simply are the classic tread pattern and Goldilocks of wanting off-road, on-road, and long tread life. The tread motif reminds me of M.C. Escher's tessellated pattern of reptiles in his 1943 lithograph aptly titled Reptiles. I highly recommend this tyre if you are seeking a tyre for daily driving on the highway with daily juants on unpaved county roads that perform both duties in commendable fashion.

4. Cooper Discovery STTs: So far as this tyre goes, I am pleased with them. Tread life is good. On pavement they handle well. Off-road I haven't had a decent opportunity to test them out in full capacity personally. However, I do have a friend that had this tyre and it perform remarkably in Moab.

5. Michelin LTX M/Ss: This is our standby tyre for our tow vehicles. Quiet and long wearing, not suited for rigorous off-road use, yet for unpaved county road perform very aptly.

6. Michelin XML 395/85R20: Good robust tyre for the larger vehicle. Noisey on the highway though, the tyre almost matches the exhuast note of a Hercules LDS turbo engine.

7. Hankook DynaPro MTs: The verdict is still out on this tyre. I have them shod on my VW Touareg which happens to be my daily driver. Road noise is reasonable. Tread life seems to be within the light to normal range. Behaves well in muddy conditions.


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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2014, 09:59:07 AM »
My observations on the KM2 in 35x12.5x17

They flat spot if parked more than 2-3 days. Goes away after a couple of miles.
Street traction goes down after the first 15k miles, especially in the rain.
Offroad traction has been excellent on dirt, rock, gravel.
They really ball up in the black gumbo (mud) we have in Central TX, but that could just be because I have a hard time keeping them cleaned out with my manual trans.

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Re: When rubber meets the dirt.
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2014, 07:44:03 PM »
I did this to my Km2s. Road noise lessened a bit. Can't wait to see what wet weather traction improvements, if any, it will make. I may need a not dirty photo to get the point across.